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Post by Mr. Macgregor on Mar 13, 2012 13:55:20 GMT -5
Well after another poor showing in terms of RPers it looks like we are down to just 8 active wrestlers and what has been the third show in the last few months to have a very poor turn out. There was plenty of time to RP and I thank everyone who did. I understand that real life gets in the way but just as there has been plent of time to RP there has also been plenty of time to tell me you wouldn't be able to show for the card.
It is really begining to annoy me, we can't get any momentum for people leaving and now showing and begining to wonder what is the point? We have been running for 7months now and have went through 43 diffrent guys to be left with only 8 is a bit demoralising. I fully understand the reasons behind the guys that have told me they are leaving, but the rest just to decide they will no longer show up is a pain in the arse.
Anyway the rant is over. I will post what can be described as a breif set of results for the first three matches as we all know the out come, and hopefully give you something good to read for the main event as it was the only match to have both guys RP with some good quality I might add.
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Post by Nick Daniels on Mar 13, 2012 16:10:54 GMT -5
The Up&Down in activity here is really weird. You are not to blame for that , your results are some of the best work i have ever read. Results are Always on time. Storyline is good.
Its strange man. Ive Been around for a couple of time now , and its like 3 Different Era went by in That time. At First you Had The LAX/Del Russo/Hale/Camp/Crowe time. Then It Changed to Me/Gibson/Young/Havoc/Glacier and now thing shifted toward The Eastern Kings/Evolution/Christopher/Powers/Zuehl.
The roster have been in Constant Change. So , maybe its time for change. Just Throwing out idea there , Maybe a Change in the logo , The Website. Might Give us a Television Deal , Or Move out from the Dungeon and take us on the road , get a little more ''Budget'' For the fed (if you know what i mean).
Just Shake things up around , because as much as i LOVE this place , there seems to be something that dont grab people attention enough for them to stick around for long like Crowe/Me/Toast/Young did.
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Post by Mr. Macgregor on Mar 13, 2012 17:12:57 GMT -5
I agree and I always said once things were up and running things like that would be done. but we have never been stable enough to get things like that done. We started off as a small budget promotion with an idea of going nothing to something and if people can't understand the idea we want to go for that is up to them. Like you said we have went through three different Era's but I am pleased guys like You, Crowe, Young and Glacier have stuck around to help try and achieve such a vision. I have been looking at touring around for a few months however when I consider it we are hit with a lot of no shows and I put it on the shelf. I was initially going to start with going around Texas and takin it from there but still it isn't going to happen when we only have 8 active wrestlers. In total we have 10 if I include you and Crowe who have been in contact and I know you will be returning in the near future.
Maybe we do need to shake things up a bit and anyone who wants to chip in with anything please feel free.
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Sharp
UWA Wrestler
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Post by Sharp on Mar 13, 2012 17:32:12 GMT -5
Going through the same thing in New Wave.
The time of the year makes things worse too. Sun's coming out more, meaning people are gonna be out more.
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ZUEHL
UWA Jobber
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Post by ZUEHL on Mar 13, 2012 17:32:38 GMT -5
Hey, let's start having a show in a small U. S. territory like Guam. Something like that to maintain overall "costs" low, minus the flight times out there. If nothing else, if we do a show like that and there is a no show, then dudes missed the flight...lol...
Or you have a daddy warbucks type come in and be a silent partner a la a bit like TNA(?). Then you can have a more regional (3 state) mobilization for shows and it make sense. But I can understand that you would need a guarantee'd X number of RP's....more than 8-10.
Not to mention, let's have our guys try to do home made commercials to add to the shows-- be they include wrestlers or not and maybe Mac could help with a PM with like a topic for a certain brand of item. like edible socks or something... again, might need more than 8-10 for that. lol
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The Scorpion
UWA Wrestler
The protector of wounded worlds and crying gods
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Post by The Scorpion on Mar 13, 2012 19:38:10 GMT -5
I like most of the ideas posted. I can't control others, but I can damn sure kick my stuff up a notch. I'm here to stay boss man.
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Post by Khris Young on Mar 13, 2012 20:16:22 GMT -5
I'm not sure what the deal is. I want to say there is not enough activity on the boards to keep people here, maybe? Obviously, we have some dedicated guys who show up every week. We just have to find more. The weather is getting better, but people should still be able to rp just once. I am planning a nice program with The Scorpion, so I am here to stay and hopefully that'll spike some interest. I've been kind of lacking as a of late as I was out of town. But I want to be on the card this week and look forward to helping out the best I can.
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Post by Nick Daniels on Mar 13, 2012 20:42:30 GMT -5
Whatever the direction is i know i did some empty "promise" to some people for GFX here , and i am sorry about that. Time restrain killed me , but everyyything is coming together good now. So if you need any help with anything it would be my pleasure to help with anything you need. I Want this place to stay open and active so i am ready to help if help is needed And on a side note , i understand what you mean with the not enough active roster for yet to take the show on the road and bust the budget a little. But on another note , i think a Fresh new look could help a little , just my opinion. Cuz the 3 <<I>> Look when i look for a fed is the quality of results , quality of the wrestlers , and the gfx. I Think the only problem we have here is the look need to be refreshed a little ... Cuz we got some really good rpers And awesome Results
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Post by Khris Young on Mar 13, 2012 20:51:22 GMT -5
I will agree with that as well ^^. Graphics can go a long way for feds. I will also say that graphics are usually what draws me in. I will look at them, then proceed to check the place out. This one, I just so happened to check the place out, first.
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Toast
UWA Superstar
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Post by Toast on Mar 13, 2012 21:01:57 GMT -5
For the record, I thought everyone who roleplayed did so with good quality, not just the two in the main event (although they both were great). IMO, some of the matches just lack a little bit of snap, attention-grabbing stuff. I loved it when the UWA had at least one gimmicky match per week that I could look forward to either participating in or reading. As of now, the matches are just sort of there.. with no real idea on what's going on. It's why I had to change my roleplaying style. Why bother with two crazy, wacky wrestlers when, in the end, the "big stars" in the UWA appear to be the ones who aren't as zany. If you aren't taken seriously, then you don't get the "big push". Now, I love the UWA and have been a major proponent of its backing since I joined. I loved the way things worked when I joined, but that's back when there was more of a focus on the titles. Now the titles seem more like props, and title matches are handed out very randomly (ie: Alex Brooke vs Nick Daniels was an odd one). Plus, the idea that the Deathmatch Title has been vacant for almost two months is a bit demoralizing and annoying. IMO, the DM Title should have been determined the very next week, or in the least, had one of the wrestlers storyline steal it or something. Why bother caring about a title when the fed doesn't appear to? Another thing is the lack of a general storyline. The Kenji/Bahir storyline was great... but other than that and the early stuff, I really can't think of one storyline lately. I even sent out PM's asking for a feud/storyline/etc when I first joined and was turned down by everyone, which is a shame considering that storylines definitely help get talent and a fed over. Now though, I've been talking with DC on a little storyline (hopefully) and we'll see if that pans out... but I think that there should be a focus on not only the titles, but also some storylines.. even if they have to be generated by results writers to get the ball rolling. (because honestly, we're all mostly lazy when it comes to plotting out a storyline...heh) But even without a focus on the titles, I don't see anything majorly bad right now. UWA still has 8 dedicated guys. There are some feds out there that I know of that have been around for 10+ years with 6-10 guys playing a varied assortment of wrestlers. It can be done if you're willing to work with what you have. Sure the UWA may have gone through 40+ wrestlers, and that's a GOOD thing. But you've still managed to retain a quarter of them, which is a damn fine achievement for any fed. There are plenty of feds out there who would kill for even 8 dedicated guys. So I wouldn't worry too much about it. The UWA won't be the next CWC/APW/NeWA/whatever, and it doesn't have to. That's what I like about the UWA, it's a unique fed with a loyal, underground following... as the company name represents. Don't give up on the UWA, I've been in too many feds that started off strong, but when things got a little tight around Spring/Summer, they closed up shop. The only main things I would suggest is possibly a website update where it looks and feels more like an "underground" fed. Maybe have a background styled like some abandoned warehouse where all the "unsanctioned" fights are held? Maybe have the venues take place in various "undisclosed locations" around Texas and/or other states when they're run out of town? Book more gimmicky matches, just to change things up. Hell, Glacier and/or Toast would be prime for those types, since I don't care what kind of match it is, I'll work with it and at least attempt to make it entertaining in a promo. Last but not least, definitely reward the loyal guys with some title shots, especially guys like DC and Zuehl who are long overdue for a title reign IMO. (Note: I didn't mention Eastern Kings, Powers and Scorpion since they've either had a reign or are most likely about to, like Scorpion). The UWA has some amazing talent and some guys that I think are going to be HUGE stars elsewhere. Don't give them the option of looking/leaving. I think if the UWA sticks around, a year from now we'll look back at this thread and laugh. The UWA shouldn't have any kind of issue when it comes to worrying about talent... just keep posting good results and I can GUARANTEE that more people will join. The shitty feds will fall fast, leaving more talent to head our way.
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Post by The Angel on Mar 13, 2012 22:40:26 GMT -5
I am here to stay. My brain been flushed out lately, but my participation to roleplay will still be available, but it is limited at the moment as I am trying to figure out what I want to do with my character. DC is still loyal to UWA.
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Post by Sir Owen Gyles on Mar 13, 2012 23:09:34 GMT -5
Are you considering me in those eight active members you mentioned? I'm pretty sure I've posted for every match since I got here except the one this week. I had computer issues; my laptop fried and I was waiting to get my new one in the mail. I saw the card booked and thought I'd be able to squeeze in extra time on my parents computer to roleplay, but unfortunately that did not occur.
Yeah, I know I posted in the predictions thread. That was the night I was supposed to roleplay but, well. Let's say, things happened to prevent that from occuring. Following that I haven't been able to get online until now.
So, you probably have nine now if you weren't including me before. I will agree the place needs some bigger storylines, as I've just been going match to match since I arrived. Honestly, if you remember my initial reply to you when you made me the offer via Roughkut a few months ago, I said I was interested in the Deathmatch Title. I think it'd be interesting to see a man so devoted to honor be forced to fight visciously. I was trying to hint at it in some of roleplays, but, welll, nothing came of it yet.
Don't get too down on yourself though. Your a good fedhead. Unforunately people just end up coming and going, in any e-fed. It's always a revolving door unfortunately. Just have to stick with it.
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Post by Mr. Macgregor on Mar 14, 2012 3:33:00 GMT -5
Well thanks for the feedback guys. I agree with toast all rps were quality this week sorry i.never mentioned that. And I have long said the gimmick matches should return but right now we I don't know with who, toast and zuehl have exprrssed interest so something.could come of that but three titles between 9 active guys is a bit.much.
Nick and anyone else if you want to throw together some graphics that would be great. If anyone has any ideas for storylines let me know and we will set something up. Toast I have an idea for you regarding a pm I got a while back, will be in touch.
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Post by Crowe on Mar 14, 2012 7:31:41 GMT -5
I’m actually going to step in and take partial blame for the Deathmatch Title being left vacant for so long because when it was first vacated I brought up the fact that 3 active titles between (at the time) 12-15 wrestlers seemed too much as you’d literally be looking at 3-4 legitimate contenders per title max and now with the slump I can only enforce my opinion that 3 titles between 8-9 active wrestlers just seems ludicrous. I had suggested merging the Texas & Deathmatch titles, bringing the Texas title into a more hardcore setting – hell, it could be renamed the Texas Deathmatch Championship, and keep the Heavyweight as the “wrestling” championship. Looking at the roster now, I see things like this.
Heavyweight Title Contenders Khris Young Scorpion Daniel Christopher Bahir Singh Toast Crowe – When I get round to his return!
Texas/Deathmatch Title Contenders Sean Powers Zuehl Sir Owen Gyles Juan Cassanova Glacier Jekyll/Hyde Out Cast Kenji Tsong
By no means take that as gospel, that’s just how I see things right now going on recent performances, etc. There’s no reason why names like Gyles couldn’t jump to Heavyweight contention as I know he’s a talent, just been on a bit of a cold streak since starting here. Also Juan Cassanova being new I don’t know but what’s to say he isn’t the next champ!?
Storylines are also a foundation of a great thread and I agree with Toast that beside the Eastern Kings feud, there really isn’t anything else substantial enough to draw attention right now. Ok, Young and Scorpion are just starting out and I expect that to be a phenomenal feud that lasts longer than one simple title match (much like Crowe/Adam Lax did) so maybe some of you others need to think how to better get your characters into the limelight? There’s bucket loads of potential and yes, I know I’m one to talk with Crowe being MIA for so long. I had planned on developing his return during Price of Glory but time just got away from me and I don’t want to just hash it together but even so, looking at the lists above there’s no reason why names like Gyles & Zuehl couldn’t work a story (this was actually talked about on the chat board I think) the Eastern Kings feud is far from over in my opinion, not to mention Bahir Singh & Sean Powers continuing to compete.
There’s a similar issue going on over in another fed I’m involved in – although not actively, but thankfully over the recent few days there’s been a spike and 3 new members signed. Maybe we need to push more on sites like RoughKut, Efed Knights? Scour free agent threads in case there’s any talent looking for a home? I don’t know but largely I think the issue is out of our control.
Like a couple have mentioned, graphics are essential in drawing in new talent and I think it’s incorporated well with card graphics and the roster graphics on the homepage. Could the forum do with an update? Maybe, but from what I’ve seen, Proboards seems limited in that capacity as it is so unless a move to somewhere like Invision was done I can’t see much that can be done.
Nick Daniels – You mentioned you’ve got more time to look into graphics now, perhaps you could draft up a new theme for the boards?
All in all there’s still dedicated members – the fact that there’s been 2 weeks since the last show has definitely dampened activity on the boards but overall I wouldn’t worry too much right now.
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Post by Nick Daniels on Mar 14, 2012 10:17:51 GMT -5
Agree that invisionfree give you a larger scale of modification you can do. i Think moving would be a bad idea , as no matter how people are active , when you look at a fed and see 30 registered members , its always good. But here is what i could do , if the boss agree with it. i Could create another ProBoards board , work on the skin on this ProBoards , get feedback , work on it again etc.. then when the skin is ready , and up to what people want for it , send it to the boss , and change the skin on THIS ProBoards here. That's is OFF COURSE is the boss agree to it. And like toast said .. make UWA more visible to others (RoughKut Etc..) i can provide a link to like 8-9 Top Efeds link and Roughkut like website to post the efed at so it can get more views .. That's how i did for my WWE Fed (that i left without saying a word , I'm a bad fed head) tho i found 23 Members in 8 days .. Be sure to UPDATE the status of the Fed on Roughkut like how many show we did , that we are still going strong but still looking for members etc.. i will agree that there is not AS MANY storyline going as there was At first .. lax and crowe and del russo stealing the belt etc... But , to that i think we can look at the no-show too. When you are involve in a storyline with someone is the guy all of the sudden disappear its hard to continue the storyline or have a coherent ending to it. I Agree with Crowe at 100% When he say that we don't need 3 Titles right now. With the Number of ACTIVE people 3 Championship look like too much. EDIT : chrishartefeds.top-site-list.comkatopefeds.top-site-list.comaarontopefeds.top-site-list.comefeds.gotop100.com/in.phptop100efeds.gotop100.com/in.phpmichaelsefeds.top-site-list.comefedresources.top-site-list.comefedoriginals.top-site-list.comroughkut.comwww.efedknights.comprojkf.tigon-designs.comThere , Places we could post the Fed z13.invisionfree.com/WWESmackdown ,, my WWE Fed. Its Closed , but just to show you what i could do with the board , offcourse with a more UNDERGROUND look to it.
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